Has Hotmetal Pro 6 been scrapped?

UKMagpie · #1 (**permalink**) 08-19-2003, 06:55 AM

I have been trying to purchase the full version of HMPv6 without success.

Amazon do not stock it new, hotmetalpro.com don't mention it on the website, so having used it from the Tiscali additional Software I am now stuck!

I am still in WYSIWYG mode and am learning html from there - I am not yet at a stage to program from scratch, as a software tester I prefer to break things!!!

If anyone has a spare copy can they get in touch please

Till · #2 (**permalink**) 08-19-2003, 03:26 PM

Looks like it was downsized, but it wasn't the best editor anyway.

If you need a WYSIWYG, I would recommend Dreamweaver MX. Offers the most features. Probably the best deal you can get right now.

I'd check ebay or maybe a local flea market for a copy of Hotmetal, if you really can't live without it.

Hope that helps,
Till

mem-tek · #3 (**permalink**) 10-25-2003, 09:45 AM

Corel killed HMPRO after they purchased Softquad.

Allen · #4 (**permalink**) 12-21-2003, 05:46 PM

If you are still looking for HotMetal 6 - I believe we have a review copy here - pm me if you would like it.

mumbles · #5 (**permalink**) 02-07-2004, 07:25 PM

I too am looking for a copy of HotMetal Pro 6. I own it and dreamweaver. Dreamweaver is good for the fancy stuff but for a basic page HotMetal is much faster. I want a copy for work, since I can't buy one is it legal to give it away? Use it on my computer at work? What happens to the software license when the company no longer supports the product and doesn't replace the product with another?

Till · #6 (**permalink**) 03-29-2004, 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mumbles
I too am looking for a copy of HotMetal Pro 6. I own it and dreamweaver. Dreamweaver is good for the fancy stuff but for a basic page HotMetal is much faster. I want a copy for work, since I can't buy one is it legal to give it away? Use it on my computer at work? What happens to the software license when the company no longer supports the product and doesn't replace the product with another?

I don't think we know too much about that since neither of us a lawyer.

But I believe that when a company is bought by another, all rights are transferred to the new owner and unless they give it away for free, you can't just "get" another copy.

Goose · #7 (**permalink**) 06-09-2004, 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Allen
If you are still looking for HotMetal 6 - I believe we have a review copy here - pm me if you would like it.

Hi Allen

I really need a copy of HotMetal Pro 6.
My CD is damaged and I cant reload.
Can I get the review copy please?
How do we do this?
And is there any difference between the review copy and the
standard copy?

Thanks
Goose

Allen · #8 (**permalink**) 06-09-2004, 07:31 PM

goose - i believe someone already claimed it - i can look for it this weekend

why not upgrade to homesite

mumbles · #9 (**permalink**) 06-09-2004, 07:52 PM

Yes I called Corel and begged them to sell me another license for the CD I already own. They refused. Perhaps I can sue them for withdrawal pains?

Allen · #10 (**permalink**) 06-09-2004, 07:54 PM

amazing!

what is it about hotmetal you like so much?

Goose · #11 (**permalink**) 06-10-2004, 02:23 PM

Hi Allen

I have been using HMP for years. I started with version 2 and I can code like crazy with it. I can do some hand coding but without my HMP I just can't function. Plus I have web sites already built that I used HMP to code and I need the program to keep those sites in good order. Nothing else I've tried works like HMP. There's just so much more versatility with HMP than with Dreamweaver or Front page. It's a huge gap in performance - at least for those of us who "grew-up" coding with HMP. You would be amazed at what I can do with HMP and there just isn't anything else on the market that even approaches it to my knowledge. And even if there was another program close to HMP on the market I just dont think the versatility and wide range of things I can do with HMP that come with years of experience and skill development using the software can be matched - not even closely matched. I've known for almost 10 years that HMP was the absolute leader by far in an editor. And I'm still growing with it. As far as problems some people have had with PhotoShop and HMP - there are always ways to get around "things" - maybe they didnt load their image files into the proper directory for transfer back into HMP or something. I have found that ArcSoft and other programs and even PhotoShop works just fine with HMP after you get the "hang" of it and learn how you need to transfer images to get them back into HMP for use on sites.
Also, I spent over 5 years coding a site that is so far advanced that comptuers have just now become fast enough for the site to be launched onto the internet and I did with HMP and it could only have been done with HMP. If not for HMP then I would not be a senior level web developer/designer/producer. I just simply cant live without it.

Now that I understand what Corel did it makes me sick. Corel just decided to destroy the competition either for themselves or third parties by shelving HMP and it's really a huge mistake for Corel. I for one will never purchase or refer another Corel product or service - never ever. I did notice after Corel took over there were alot of problems with getting responses regarding HMP as in no responses whatsoever. I had developed an entire course to teach HMP and had people waiting and the Corel ceo would not even answer my many numerous emails and calls and I lost the whole project because of him. I even pleaded for a response with messages letting the Corel ceo know that I am wheelchair dependent and that I desperately needed to speak with him about certification for HMP and a couple of other issues and getting a student price for the software. He never even had the courtesy to respond even once so that tells you what kind of a person he is and evidently what kind of people his assistants are. Corel didn't even make an effort to keep HMP on the market because evidently someone - whether Corel or a third party - wanted HMP destroyed for their own benefit or the benefit of another company. Evidently Corel just decided from the get-go to destroy HMP. The software developers who developed HMP are so far ahead of everyone else it's pathetic and as far as Im concerned Corel is a complete sham for destroying HMP. I sincerely hope that the developers of HMP will put it back on the market even under a different name or company - I would buy all versions for the rest of my days without one moment of hesitation and without regard to whatever has come out on the market in terms of editing software. Nothing can or will ever compare because HMP is simply too far ahead for anyone to catch up significantly. I really can't say enough great things about HMP because I know what it can do with an experienced user and it's truly amazing and advanced.

If you or anyone else knows where I can get HMP version 6 please please email me. It feels like I've lost my right arm without HMP and I'm at a dead standstill and can't function properly until I get another copy of version 6. I don't really care about the site manager - it's the HMP6 editor I desperately need.

Many Thanks and Best Regards to All,

Goose, SWD (Senior Level Developer)

foam · #12 (**permalink**) 09-12-2004, 03:44 PM

Hey Goose!

Hotmetal6 was/is great!
I also still use it and don't want to live without it

Are you still looking for it ?
You can email me if you want.

There are not many people who deserved living without HMP

NiteCrawlr · #13 (**permalink**) 11-21-2004, 03:44 PM

I'm looking all over the net for a Hotmetal copy!! Where can I find it? does anyone has a copy?

Allen · #14 (**permalink**) 11-21-2004, 03:53 PM

why nite? whats so great about it ?

NiteCrawlr · #15 (**permalink**) 11-22-2004, 01:30 PM

It is a very easy to use HTML editor and very fast. And most important, it doesn't put trash codes in the HTML code, so if you have to look in the code is very simple.